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Hungry Donner
Please people, don't spam up these threads. If the servers aren't up I don't see how the update can ever get posted.

woo first!
Here we go. Again !
Choosen One
We were 1700 User(s) are reading this topic (1448 Guests and 2 Anonymous Users) at the moment of the closure.
20 HOURS OF WAITING ... FOR WHAT? FOR "STAND BY" SCREEN ??????? swear.gif chaos.gif shocking.gif sterb032.gif
screw this..We all going to get a kick in the groin when the teaser is only 1 watch
omg these threads closes before they're even made
can we have any reason for this waiting time?
[size="4"][/size]GOOD MORNING AUSTRALIA HAPPY 6TH OF JUNE. smile.gif
Bring the damn teaser up already. We people are suffering here.
The Crustacean
Good lord, that previous thread locked up quick. (Especially for one that reached 200+) FIFTEEN MINUTES! That's gotta be a record! ohmy.gif

Though considering all the spam, it doesn't really count, I suppose.
teaser - bethesda softwoks forum apokalipsis
lets all just silently leave and never come back! that will teach them.!
QUOTE(Hungry Donner @ Jun 5 2007, 04:31 PM) *
Please people, don't spam up these threads

Why do you even ask that?
Whee rofl.. so funny to watch the user number drop after 200 posts have been reached
Jonny Hermit
Why make the threads if you don't want spam? Its like giving people cake and saying they can't eat it.
Socrate's Show thine self! I see you down there!! gun2.gif
Damn, this whole hype thing seriously destroys my workplace productivity. And for that, I am thankful smile.gif
i've seen the number of 1727 users.... can we beat it in this thread?
They are probably going to have it up by the end of the day. The "Please Stand By" screen is up now.
i think they whait some time to see how many people are interessted xD
Is it out yet???
we are on about 1700 users reading this topic !

If you are a fan add your country to the fan country list :
Armacham Tech
QUOTE(Hungry Donner @ Jun 5 2007, 07:31 AM) *
Please people, spam up these threads.

HELLO ???you lazy devs...put down your third cup of coffee and upload the damn video
peepz get out of my internet, i want to see the Teaser
QUOTE(socrates200X @ Jun 5 2007, 04:28 PM) *
( views the chaos in a monitor room, seated in an egg-shaped chair, slowly petting a white Persian cat )
( steeples fingers ) Gooood, gooooood...


Man, this thing is actually gonna reach way over the 2000 mark, the last thread peaked at:

1701 User(s) are reading this topic (1448 Guests and 2 Anonymous Users
*giggidy* hilarity ensues.

beth should've really saw this coming, they didnt just buy the game license with their money
Something equally as pleasing as the Starcraft 2 cinematic trailer would be great.
(especially seeing as I stayed home from work today)
I believe it is foolish to believe that it was not unworthy of comment when it's obviously a particular nasal digression. Otherwise, where would we be if not for on top of the floor if there were not to be once the asininity was realised? However much there was, there could never be more than what could possibly assumed to be, although the strategy was not quite sound, it was rather distinct. There could also possibly an a few geometric cubes which did not have six sides, but had a predisposition to antidisestablishmentarianism, although this could is to one's own reasoning as butter is to a cat.

While there is sufficient debate to warrant the sect which arises from the long running utopianistic ideals, it was very much an onomatopoeia to which the highest degree of intelligence can be applied. Whilst this does not produce an adequate result for which there is a cure, it is best to wonder what specialists are available to operate on such a classical case. Perhaps, in future, it would be best to run a model of climate change of which, predictably, a camel could be disintegrated. Many have wondered this, but few have had the courage to find out.

Another topic of great importance, is the inability or, inhibition if you will, of the latter to produce a veritable infinitum. It should go without saying that this is a branch of philosophical reasoning that goes beyond mere rhetoric and pedantic exaggerations. The transformation is quite an apt topic of which there is no coordinate that could reasonably explain the tempestuous nature of the fraction to which it belonged. This is a very touchy subject for many a budding mathematician and should not be taken lightly, in any case.

Some may ask? Et tu? But I say, to hell with it. There is nothing more for which there is a rose to bloom in a garden of infinite sorrow, although there is in quantum mechanics. This is explained quite well, upon a sea of troubles and an ocean of calm, there is no light to which the day does dawn and woe sayeth the tiger, for it is darkness. Although, this could well be an error in calculations and it is not precise through the systematic error ratio of which there is no escape.
socrates200X is in the thread..
Lets spam till we get teaser !!! !!! !!! FALLOUT BROTHERS TO THE ARMS !!!!!
That singing mutant must be the reason Firefox has multiple tabs. Opening in about ten at once is great.

Try it.
End of the world occured pretty much as we had predicted. Bethesda forum users waiting for FO3 teaser got pissed off.
Come on, post it before my beard grows back again...
Hungry Donner
QUOTE(Yourikahn @ Jun 5 2007, 10:32 AM) *
can we have any reason for this waiting time?

I can't give you an official answer, because I simply don't know. But I'd wager a guess it has something to do with the fact that they only got to work a short while ago and they probably have to prep a lot of stuff. I'd also guess there's a specific time they've planned to put the stuff up, but I don't know when that is.
thats it, im gonna skip my budo class and cycle to washington and ask if they lost the teaser!!

mine turn nabz

Personal computer game
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For information on interactive gaming in general, see video game. For the 80's UK magazine, see Personal Computer Games.
“Computer Games” redirects here. For the George Clinton album, see Computer Games (album).

A personal computer game (also known as a computer game or simply PC game) is a video game played on a personal computer, rather than on a video game console or arcade machine. Computer games have evolved from the simple graphics and gameplay of early titles like Spacewar!, to a wide range of more visually advanced titles, although the computer game market has been declining in the United States since 1999.[1]

A screenshot of the best-selling PC game of all time, The Sims.

PC games are created by one or more game developers, often in conjunction with other specialists (such as game artists) and either published independently or through a third party publisher. They may then be distributed on physical media such as DVDs and CDs, as Internet-downloadable shareware, or through online delivery services such as Direct2Drive and Steam. PC games often require specialised hardware in the user's computer in order to play, such as a specific generation of graphics processing unit or an Internet connection for online play, although these system requirements vary from game to game.

Computer games and game addiction are often the subject of criticism, focusing largely on the influence of objectionable content and prolonged gameplay on minors. The Entertainment Software Association and other groups maintain that parents are responsible for moderating their children's behaviour, although the controversy has prompted attempts to control the sale of certain games in the United States.[2]Contents [hide]
1 History
1.1 Early growth
1.2 Industry crash
1.3 New genres
1.4 Contemporary gaming
2 PC game development
2.1 User-created modifications
3 Distribution
3.1 Physical distribution
3.2 Shareware
3.3 Online delivery
4 Computer game genres
5 Computer gaming technology
5.1 Hardware
5.2 Multiplayer
5.2.1 Local Area Network gaming
5.2.2 Online multiplayer
5.3 Emulation
6 Controversy
7 See also
8 References

Main article: History of computer and video games

Early growth

Spacewar!, developed for the PDP-1 in 1961, is often credited as being the first ever computer game. The game consisted of two player-controlled spaceships maneuvering around a central star, each attempting to destroy the other.

Although personal computers only became popular with the development of the microprocessor, mainframe and minicomputers have been used for computer gaming since at least the 1960s. One of the first computer games was developed in 1961, when MIT students Martin Graetz and Alan Kotok, with MIT employee Stephen Russell, developed Spacewar! on a PDP-1 computer used for statistical calculations.[3]

The first generation of PC games were often text adventures or interactive fiction, in which the player communicated with the computer by entering commands through a keyboard. The first text-adventure, Adventure, was developed for the PDP-11 in 1972.[4] By the 1980s, personal computers had become powerful enough to run games like Adventure, but by this time, graphics were beginning to become an important factor in games. Later games combined textual commands with basic graphics, as seen in the SSI Gold Box games such as Pool of Radiance, or Bard's Tale.

By the mid-1970s, games were developed and distributed through hobbyist groups and gaming magazines, such as Creative Computing and later Computer Gaming World. These publications provided game code that could be typed into a computer and played, encouraging readers to submit their own software to competitions.[5]

Industry crash
Main article: Video game crash of 1983

As the video game market became flooded with poor-quality games created by numerous companies attempting to enter the market, and major releases such as the Atari 2600 adaptation of E.T. failed to impress consumers, the popularity of personal computers for education rose dramatically. As a result, in 1983, consumer interest in video games dwindled to historical lows, prompting the near-collapse of the game console market while causing increase in sales of home computer games.[6]

The effects of the crash were largely limited to the console market, as established companies such as Atari posted record losses over subsequent years. Conversely, the home computer market boomed, as sales of low-cost colour computers such as the Commodore 64 rose to record highs and developers such as Electronic Arts benefited from increasing interest in the platform.[6]

The crash was largely reversed by the introduction of the Nintendo Entertainment System.[6]

New genres

Increasing adoption of the computer mouse, driven partially by the success of games such as the highly successful King's Quest series, and high resolution bitmap displays allowed the industry to include increasingly high-quality graphical interfaces in new releases. Meanwhile, the Commodore Amiga computer achieved great success in the market from its release in 1985, contributing to the rapid adoption of these new interface technologies.[7]

Wolfenstein 3D, released as shareware by id Software in 1992, is widely regarded as having popularised the first person shooter genre of computer games.

Further improvements to game artwork were made possible with the introduction of the first sound cards, such as AdLib's Music Synthesizer Card, in 1987. These cards allowed IBM PC compatible computers to produce complex sounds using FM synthesis, where they had previously been limited to simple tones and beeps. However, the rise of the Creative Labs Sound Blaster card, which featured much higher sound quality due to the inclusion of a PCM channel and digital signal processor, led AdLib to file for bankruptcy in 1992.

The year before, id Software had produced one the first first-person shooter games, Hovertank 3D, which also represented the first use of realtime 3D graphics.[8] The same team went on to develop Wolfenstein 3D in 1992, which became the first commercially successful first-person shooter, kick-starting a genre that would become one of the highest-selling in modern times.[9] The game was originally distributed through the shareware distribution model, allowing players to try a limited part of the game for free but requiring payment to play the rest, and represented one of the first uses of texture mapping graphics in a popular game, along with Ultima Underworld.[10]

While leading Sega and Nintendo console systems kept their CPU speed at 3-7 MHz, the 486 PC processor ran much faster, allowing it to perform many more calculations per second. The 1993 release of Doom on the PC was a breakthrough in 3D graphics, and was soon ported to various game consoles in a general shift toward greater realism.[11]

Many early PC games included extras such as the peril-sensitive sunglasses that shipped with The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. These extras gradually became less common, but many games were still sold in the traditional over-sized boxes that used to hold the extra "feelies". Today, such extras are usually found only in Special Edition versions of games, such as Battlechests from Blizzard.[12]

Contemporary gaming

The high quality graphics of F.E.A.R. demonstrate the complex visual effects common in modern PC games.

By 1995, the rise of Microsoft Windows and success of 3D console titles such as Super Mario 64 sparked great interest in hardware accelerated 3D graphics on the PC, and soon resulted in attempts to produce affordable solutions with the ATI Rage, Matrox Mystique and Silicon Graphics ViRGE. Tomb Raider, which was released in 1996, was one of the first third person shooter games and was praised for its revolutionary graphics. As 3D graphics libraries such as DirectX and OpenGL matured and knocked proprietary interfaces out of the market, these platforms gained greater acceptance in the market, particularly with their demonstrated benefits in games such as Unreal.[13] However, major changes to the Microsoft Windows operating system, by then the market leader, made many older MS-DOS-based games unplayable on Windows NT, and later, Windows XP.[14]

The faster graphics accelerators and improving CPU technology resulted in increasing levels of realism in computer games. During this time, the improvements introduced with products such as ATI's Radeon R300 and NVidia's GeForce 6 Series have allowed developers to increase the complexity of modern game engines. PC gaming currently tends strongly toward improvements in 3D graphics.[15]

Unlike the generally accepted push for improved graphical performance, the use of physics engines in computer games has become a matter of debate since announcement and 2005 release of the AGEIA PhysX PPU, ostensibly competing with middleware such as the Havok physics engine. Issues such as difficulty in ensuring consistent experiences for all players,[16] and the uncertain benefit of first generation PhsyX cards in games such as Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter and City of Villains, prompted arguments over the value of such technology.[17][18]

Similarly, many game publishers began to experiment with new forms of marketing. Chief among these alternative strategies is episodic gaming, an adaptation of the older concept of expansion packs, in which game content is provided in smaller quantities but for a proportionally lower price. Titles such as Half-Life 2: Episode One took advantage of the idea, with mixed results rising from concerns for the amount of content provided for the price.[19]

PC game development
Main article: Game development

Game development, as with console games, is generally undertaken by one or more game developers using either standardised or proprietary tools. While games could previously be developed by very small groups of people, as in the early example of Wolfenstein 3D, many popular computer games today require large development teams and budgets running into the millions of dollars.[20]

PC games are usually built around a central piece of software, known as a game engine,[21] that simplifies the development process and enables developers to easily port their projects between platforms. Unlike most consoles, which generally only run major engines such as Unreal Engine 3 and RenderWare due to restrictions on homebrew software, personal computers may run games developed using a larger range of software. As such, a number of alternatives to expensive engines have become available, including open source solutions such as Crystal Space, OGRE and DarkPlaces.

User-created modifications

Counter-Strike, a total-conversion mod for Valve Software's Half-Life, achieved great popularity online and was subsequently purchased by Valve.
Main article: Mod (computer gaming)

The multi-purpose nature of personal computers often allows users to modify the content of installed games with relative ease. Since console games are generally difficult to modify without a proprietary software development kit, and are often protected by legal and physical barriers against tampering and homebrew software,[22][23] it is generally easier to modify the personal computer version of games using common, easy-to-obtain software. Users can then distribute their customised version of the game (commonly known as a mod) by any means they choose.

The inclusion of map editors such as UnrealEd with the retail versions of many games, and others that have been made available online such as GtkRadiant, allow users to create modifications for games easily, using tools that are maintained by the games' original developers. In addition, companies such as id Software have released the source code to older game engines, enabling the creation of entirely new games and major changes to existing ones.[24]

Modding had allowed much of the community to produce game elements that would not normally be provided by the developer of the game, expanding or modifying normal gameplay to varying degrees. One notable example is the Hot Coffee mod for the PC port of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, which enables access to an abandoned sex minigame by simply modifying a bit of the game's data file.


Physical distribution

Computer games are typically sold on standard storage media, such as compact discs, DVD, and floppy disks.[25] These were originally passed on to customers through mail order services,[26] although retail distribution has replaced it as the main distribution channel for video games due to higher sales.[27] Different formats of floppy disks were initially the staple storage media of the 1980s and early 1990s, but have fallen out of practical use as the increasing sophistication of computer games raised the overall size of the game's data and program files.

The introduction of complex graphics engines in recent times has resulted in additional storage requirements for modern games, and thus an increasing interest in CDs and DVDs as the next compact storage media for personal computer games. The rising popularity of DVD drives in modern PCs, and the larger capacity of the new media (a single-layer DVD can hold up to 4.7 gigabytes of data, more than five times as much as a single CD), have resulted in their adoption as a format for computer game distribution. To date, CD versions are still offered for most games, while some games offer both the CD and the DVD versions.

Main articles: Shareware and Game demo

Shareware marketing, whereby a limited or demonstration version of the full game is released to prospective buyers without charge, has been used as a method of distributing computer games since the early years of the gaming industry. Shareware games generally offer only a small part of the gameplay offered in the retail product, and may be distributed with gaming magazines, in retail stores or on developers' websites free of charge.

In the early 1990s, shareware distribution was common among fledging game companies such as Apogee Software, Epic Megagames and id Software, and remains a popular distribution method among smaller game developers. However, shareware has largely fallen out of favor among established game companies in favour of traditional retail marketing, with notable exceptions such as Big Fish Games and PopCap Games continuing to use the model today.[28]

The Steam content delivery system allows users to preload games prior to their release.

Online delivery

With the increased popularity of the Internet, online distribution of game content has become more common.[29] Retail services such as Direct2Drive and allow users to purchase and download large games that would otherwise only be distributed on physical media, such as DVDs, as well as providing cheap distribution of shareware and demonstration games. Other services, allow a subscription-based distribution model in which users pay a monthly to download and play as many games as they wish.

The Steam system, developed by Valve Corporation, provides an alternative to traditional online services. Instead of allowing the player to download a game and play it immediately, games are made available for "pre-load" in an encrypted form days or weeks before their actual release date. On the official release date, a relatively small component is made available to unlock the game. Steam also ensures that once bought, a game remains accessible to a customer for all of time, while the traditional mediums of floppy disk and CD-ROM are suspectible to unrecoverable damage and misplacement.

Computer game genres
See also: Computer and video game genres

The real time strategy genre, which accounts for more than a quarter of all PC games sold,[1] has found very little success on video game consoles, with releases such as Starcraft 64 failing in the marketplace. Strategy games tend to suffer from the design of console controllers, which do not allow fast, accurate movement.[30]

Conversely, action games have found considerable popularity on video game consoles, making up nearly a third of all video games sold in 2004, compared to just four percent on the computer. Sports games have also found greater support on game consoles compared to personal computers.[1]

Computer gaming technology

An exploded view of a modern personal computer:
CPU (Microprocessor)
Primary storage (RAM)
Expansion cards (graphics cards, etc)
Power supply
Optical disc drive
Secondary storage (Hard disk)


Modern computer games place great demand on the computer's hardware, often requiring a fast central processing unit (CPU) to function properly. CPU manufacturers historically relied mainly on increasing clock rates to improve the performance of their processors, but had begun to move stedadily towards multi-core CPUs by 2005. These processors allow the computer to simultaneously process multiple tasks, called threads, allowing the use of more complex graphics, artificial intelligence and in-game physics.[31][15]

Similarly, 3D games often rely on a powerful graphics processing unit (GPU), which accelerates the process of drawing complex scenes in realtime. GPUs may be an integrated part of the computer's motherboard, the most common solution in laptops,[32] or come packaged with a discrete graphics card with a supply of dedicated Video RAM, connected to the motherboard through either an AGP or PCI-Express port. It is also possible to use multiple GPUs in a single computer, using technologies such as NVidia's Scalable Link Interface and ATI's CrossFire.

Sound cards are also available to provide improved audio in computer games. These cards provide improved 3D audio and provide audio enhancement that is generally not available with integrated alternatives, at the cost of marginally lower overall performance.[33] The Creative Labs SoundBlaster line was for many years the de facto standard for sound cards, although its popularity dwindled as PC audio became a commodity on modern motherboards.

Physics processing units (PPUs), such as the AGEIA PhysX card, are also available to accelerate physics simulations in modern computer games. PPUs allow the computer to process more complex interactions among objects than is achievable using only the CPU, potentially allowing players a much greater degree of control over the world in games designed to use the card.[34]

Virtually all personal computers use a keyboard and mouse for user input. Other common gaming peripherals are a headset for faster communication in online games, joysticks for flight simulators, steering wheels for driving games and gamepads for console-style games.


Local Area Network gaming

Multiplayer gaming was largely limited to Local Area Networks (LANs) before cost-effective broadband internet connections became available, due to their typically higher bandwidth and lower latency than the dial-up services of the time. These advantages allowed more players to join any given computer game, but have persisted today because of the higher latency of most Internet connections and the costs associated with broadband internet.

Typically, LAN Gaming requires two or more personal computers, a router and sufficient networking cables to connect every computer on the network. Additionally, each computer must have a Network Interface Card installed or integrated onto its motherboard in order to communicate with other computers on the network. Optionally, any LAN may include an external connection to the Internet.

Computer games have been known to give bugs and virus' by either not being a commercially marked game or having an online counterpart which then downloads the virus onto your computer. If a game a passed a commercial virus inspection it is then ready for sales and purchase.

Online multiplayer
Main article: Online game

Online multiplayer games have achieved popularity largely as a result of increasing broadband adoption among consumers. Affordable high-bandwidth Internet connections allow large numbers of players to play together, and thus have found particular use in massively multiplayer online RPGs and persistent online games such as World War II Online.

Although it is possible to participate in online computer games using dial-up modems, broadband internet connections are generally considered necessary in order to reduce the latency between players (commonly known as "lag"). Such connections require a broadband-compatible modem connected to the personal computer through a network interface card (generally integrated onto the computer's motherboard), optionally separated by a router.

Main article: Emulator

Emulation software, used to run software without the original hardware, are popular for their ability to play legacy video games without the consoles or operating system for which they were designed. Console emulators such as NESticle and MAME are relatively commonplace, although the complexity of modern consoles such as the Xbox makes them far more difficult to emulate, even for the original manufacturers.[35]

Most emulation software mimics a particular hardware architecture, often to an extremely high degree of accuracy. This is particularly the case with classic home computers such as the Commodore 64, whose software often depends on highly sophisticated low-level programming tricks invented by game programmers and the demoscene.


Popular MMORPGs such as Blizzard Entertainment's World of Warcraft are a major subject of criticism, amid concern that they encourage game addiction.
Main article: Video game controversy

Computer games have long been a source of controversy, particularly related to the violence that has become commonly associated with video gaming in general. The debate surrounds the influence of objectionable content on the social development of minors, with organisations such as the American Psychological Association concluding that video game violence increases children's aggression,[36] a concern that prompted a further investigation by the Center for Disease Control in September 2006.[37] Industry groups have responded by noting the responsibility of parents in governing their children's activities, while attempts in the United States to control the sale of objectionable games have generally been found unconstitutional.[2]

Video game addiction is another cultural aspect of gaming to draw criticism, as it can have a negative influence on health and on social relations and in the most extreme cases has lead to death as a result of prolonged gameplay.[38] The problem of addiction and its health risks seems to have grown with the rise of Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPGs).[39]

See also
List of gaming topics
List of PC games
Decline of PC game sales in the US
Video game controversy
Gaming PC

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QUOTE(ZotPod @ Jun 5 2007, 10:34 AM) *
socrates200X is in the thread..

Please stand by? Please stand by? WHAT??? WHAT IS THIS??

I really angry now... mad.gif :mad:
Good morning
I need I need!
Is it out yet???
pls can I has teazer trailer?
Oblivion forum has about 100.000 threads. FO3 has now nearly 80.000 thread prior to the TEASER lol
Choosen One
aribirabirim biribiribirram dim dom <-- lol almost 3 hours listening to this one

BTW we want the video

1749 to be exact
QUOTE(Jonny Hermit @ Jun 5 2007, 03:33 PM) *
Why make the threads if you don't want spam? Its like giving people cake and saying they can't eat it.

Cuase otherwise they would have to lock a new thread every second, or ban lots of fans... besides that taser should be available already!!! comp26.gif © 2007,